6 years ago

@mogwaylaven Dear Angela, my friend, I hope to see you soon I feel that I fell deeply along with my mother, we are both sick, we are morbidly obese, it is difficult to get ahead, many times because eating healthily is more expensive.

7 years ago

@snowrunner so, did it work?

6 years ago

Hi @shackrock,<br /> <br /> "Decided to google" - there's your first mistake a) assuming google is truth and b) assuming you'll find truth via google content. Try a search engine without a filter bubble.<br /> <br /> Lastly, the only truth is cruelty<br /> <br /> Regards

7 years ago

I encourage you to take a look at the sources for the information included in the documentary at http://www.whatthehealthfilm.com/facts/, lots of good articles in here. A lot of your questions are covered in there. Another awesome resource is NutritionFacts.org which simply looks at the actual science and what it shows. <br /> <br /> &gt; But are animal-eating animals unhealthier than plant-eating animals? Are they​ extinct? No! It has more to do with exercise.<br /> <br /> Not true. While exercise is of course an important part of a healthy lifestyle, diet has a far greater impact. If you're fueling your body with crap, exercise isn't going to counteract that. There are plenty of people who are fit and exercise that still drop dead from a heart attack.<br /> <br /> &gt; "Casein is addicting" No! All things you do (eat, move, learn, toilette...) trigger the same reward system in the brain for a reason.<br /> <br /> Casein breaks down to casomorphins which has an opiate like effect on our bodies. It's what tells a baby calf to keep going back to drink more milk. http://www.onegreenplanet.org/natural-health/casein-dairy-protein-and-your-health/<br /> <br /> &gt; An Egg containing all nutrients to create a new life - in their opinion egg yellow kills you. lol<br /> It's 2017 and they still think cholesterol from food is harmful for the body.<br /> <br /> When eating animal based foods, it's not just cholesterol that gets consumed, it is a complete package and also what happens when it is cooked. The egg industry thinks their product is a super food, yet they can't legally claim it is healthy or that would be considered false advertising, interesting. https://nutritionfacts.org/video/who-says-eggs-arent-healthy-or-safe/<br /> <br /> &gt; The same kind of movie could have been made for "only eat meat, plants will kill you"<br /> <br /> I'm not aware of any studies indicating eating a 100% meat diet is healthy or can reverse the most chronic diseases in the US. There are a ton of peer reviewed, evidence based studies that indicate a plant based diet can do so. Also, you need fiber in your diet which animal products have 0 of.

7 years ago

@justin<br /> No, you don't need trying to trick me!<br /> And no, you don't need Intentionally or dumbly misunderstand my criticism and giving misleading answer without even disprove my critic on the wrong absolutism of this movie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fording me to a single source ROTFL I have a own brain, and could use my own sourceS (plural!)<br /> Forcing me in endless discussion in this place which is no forum - it's a comment section!<br /> Never is "the-movie-website" or"nutrionfacts.org" a solid source and free from fakefacts (propaganda). Rating his own stuff, self-linking to his own one propaganda side while majority of scientist and provable facts reveal these lies. I know you will never come out from your "filter bubble", no matter how good my arguments or weak yours would be.. The should have JUST sticked to the Truth, skipping the manipulative lies. Point.<br /> <br /> I just on a simple way disproved the words of the blind absolutism in this movie - this disgusting esoteric knowledge!!!<br /> <br /> I just revealed the lies and the misleading connection of information. I never said that all information about nutrition in this crap movie are wrong.<br /> And to be clear, there are movies and documentaries about plant nutrition which give only correct informations.<br /> <br /> You don't have to encourage me! you don't have to explain things to me! My knowledge about sustained nutrition and sport is obviously by far far far more developed than yours!<br /> I know the lies from the "only vegan"-lobby, as well as the lies from "the meat is good"-lobby. They all move the view wrong. But again this is a comment section. Giving you proper education about nutrition (which may come to the conclusion pro/only plant based is an option) would be a very time consuming task - still you would ignore it. But I didn't want to give a lecture which could take years. So I just criticize the wrongs of the movie. You don't need to distract with cheap tricks.<br /> Even your comment hurts my brain, because you ignore things I wrote or again mix up wrongs and rights.<br /> Me explaining that to you needs at lease 1 book. Have no time - Get out of your "filter bubble" and do the learning yourself!<br /> <br /> And don't ever try again to force my intelligence or experience. (You don't even get the cynicism in the conclusion of my first comment and try to counterargue it ROTFL - you haven't or you didn't want to understand what I wrote - so I let it be)<br /> <br /> BTW<br /> it's not just the lies in the movie mixed with few facts - the movie (e.g. presentation) is simply brain-dead boring.<br /> Just to inform you: No, I'm not a big meat eater - far away from it! Just this movie is crap and deluded!<br /> "Plastic Planet" did a quite good job. This movie did NOT!!!!<br /> Don't even try to answer!!!

7 years ago

@justin <br /> Just to give you 1 example of how incompetent your are:<br /> <br /> I wrote:<br /> &gt;"Casein is addicting" No! All things you do (eat, move, learn, toilette...) trigger the same reward system in the brain for a reason.<br /> <br /> you wrote (repeat the same crap from movie - I already heard and just answered to):<br /> &gt;Casein breaks down to casomorphins which has an opiate like effect on our bodies. It's what tells a baby calf to keep going back to &gt;drink more milk.<br /> <br /> You did clearly not read what I actually wrote. You didn't want to. Get your science right - better complete!<br /> You just pick up what pleases you and throw away all other facts! Disgusting!<br /> <br /> REAL drugs do force trigger humans dopamine system on a unnatural way - that's the danger <br /> <br /> Eating (ALL foods, not just "vegan (thinks is god) says casein is bad and wants all to believe that crap), drinking and shit also triggers the dopamine system, but on the natural way! Because your brain wants humans to eat and shit - it's needed.<br /> <br /> That all you would know if you would have asked an unbiased neurologist!<br /> BUT wait, in this case you couldn't have used it as propaganda in the movie anymore (saying "ONLY casein triggers this system (opiate like), is therefor addictive and bad" -propaganda)<br /> <br /> Much disrespect for people either self so stupid or trying to manipulate people on such disgusting way!

7 years ago

@jamatiknakmuay Of course things in addition to casein are addicting. I never said it was the only substance to cause an addiction, you specifically singled casein out so I linked a source with more info. The casein in dairy is addicting in that it makes you want to continue eating more and more, it has that effect in your brain. I never said it was more addicting or harmful than illicit drug use.<br /> <br /> With all due respect, my initial reply addressed some of your comments and I provided links with more info for those interested in learning more. Ranting without providing sources doesn't help get your point across. I'd be interested in reading sources with independent (not funded by industry) research related to the comments you made.<br /> <br /> Regarding your comment for NutritionFacts.org, he looks at peer reviewed studies published in medical journals. That is not fake or propaganda, that is science based. There are ton of websites out there making claims about nutrition, it makes sense to look at what the research indicates. I agree there is an agenda though, educating people to take ownership of their own health and lifestyle.<br /> <br /> The simple fact is there are no studies that indicate a meat heavy diet is capable of reversing chronic conditions like heart disease, type 2 diabetes, and obesity. There is plenty of research and studies showing a plant based diet can.<br /> <br /> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25198208<br /> http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/70/3/525s.full<br /> https://nutritionfacts.org/video/how-not-to-die-from-heart-disease/