User Reviews for Avengers: Endgame

Jordyep

CONTAINS SPOILERS6/10 5 years ago

Damn, it must really suck to have been snapped while being on a plane.

Pros:

- First and foremost, props to its ambition.
- There are major goosebumps, as well as emotional, moments.
- The acting is top notch. And especially the people who need to be top notch, are really top notch.
- The action has fantastic ideas at play.
- The amount of cameos in this film is unbelievable. Spoiler: [spoiler] Loved the fact that Jarvis from Agent Carter got a cameo! [/spoiler]
- It celebrates the MCU in a good, and sometimes also very clever, way.
- The right characters are highlighted.
- A good score, and finally some more musical continuity.
- The villain is still great.
- It wraps up in a very satisfying way. Characters whose story ends here, get a great wrap up.

Cons:

- The first hour is a little hard to get through. It's very dialogue heavy, which in itself isn't a problem, but the Russos aren't good at directing long sections with just dialogue, while keeping you interested. And when that's a problem, you also start to notice the slow pacing, as well as flavourless direction of those scenes.
- The [spoiler] time jump [/spoiler] feels like a lazy way to force inorganic changes into the story (e.g. [spoiler] The Hulk & Banner issue, a big plot point in the previous film, has been solved off screen; or the Civil War conflict that has been sort of resolved now, neither one of those feel earned. [/spoiler])
- The choreography and editing of the action aren't good. Moreover, the action that involves a lot of CGI feels weightless.
- Not a fan of the direction they took with [spoiler] Thor. They made him a tragic, but badass hero in the last film. I get that he's sad in this film, but did they really need to turn him into a joke again, like Thor: Ragnarok so annoyingly did? [/spoiler]
- [spoiler] The time travel mechanics in this film don’t make enough sense. As a result, the continuity of the MCU is fucked now, because of the huge plotholes in this film. If half of the population is now 5 years older, do we just have to assume that the entirety of Peter's school got snapped? Do we have to assume that all the important Wakandans that play a future role in Black Panther sequels got snapped? What about any of the tv shows that are loosely (although not as loose as once before) connected? Also, how come we can't bring back anyone who died? If a past Gamora, Nebula and Thanos can come to the future, then why can't we bring back Natascha, Gamora, Pietro, Vision, etcetera? Also, going forward, anything that goes wrong can now be fixed with time travel (as long as they don't place restrictions on the Pym particles). It's issues like these that make a lot of time travel movies fall apart, and Endgame is no different. [/spoiler]

6/10

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Reply to Jordyep

Please use spoiler tags:[spoiler] text [/spoiler]

Reply by REXTON

5 years ago

@jordyep you're being way too nit-picky... [spoiler] they already explained that by removing elements from the past could have terrible ramifications... thats why at the end _America's ass_ returned the stones... _present Nebula_ is fine thus there is no reason to bring her back... and why would you want to save Pietro? that version of quicksilver should stay buried for ever...[/spoiler] sure its not a perfect movie... but it still did a great job for the culmination of the events over the past decade...

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Reply by Jordyep

5 years ago

@rexton nitpicky? Seven years ago we all took issue with the supposed ‘plot hole’ of a broke billionaire returning to Gotham from a pit in the Middle East. Now granted, The Dark Knight Rises has a more serious tone, meaning that a Marvel film gets away with more nonsensical or unexplained stuff by nature. But the fact of the matter is: this plot and its mechanics fall apart as soon as you start to put any thought into it. That’s never a good thing, and certainly not a nitpick.

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Reply by REXTON

5 years ago

@jordyep that's exactly what nitpicking is... the plot is good, granted maybe not the perfect execution but still, it produced a good ending... its the same approach they took in the comics... I'm not sure if the, _mechanics_, as you've called them instead of _physics_, I'm not sure if they're the same as I haven't read all the comics, but perhaps they would provide a better alternative to the movie if thats what you're looking for... >plot and its mechanics fall apart as soon as you start to put any thought into it but that is true for, more or less, any movie... if you're really that guy you can nitpick the shit out of this, just give it a 2nd or a 3rd view... Endgame had a moment, in the first act, filled with fan service, when it basically made fun of itself, I remember [spoiler] Rhodey and Scott where listing time travel movies but Banner and Nebula tried to explain to them how it worked and they were just baffled :joy: I really liked that part...[/spoiler] it reminded us that its not to be taken seriously...

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Reply by Jordyep

5 years ago

@rexton In my review, I very carefully wrote that the plot doesn't make _enough_ sense. Do I need it to make perfect sense? No, I'm not _that guy_, and case in point: I certainly wasn't expecting this to be The Godfather. The whole point of science fiction/fantasy is that you as a writer can create your own set of rules. However, those rules have to make sense in the universe that you created, and more importantly, you shouldn't continuously break from them. Look at a similar film with a similar plot, that is in my opinion superior to this one: X-Men: Days of Future Past. Does its plot perfectly add up? Absolutely not. Does its plot make enough sense in order for you as a viewer to not get distracted by it? Yes, it does. And that's the whole point. Not even all of the lightheartedness in Endgame, or them taking the piss out of time travel shenanigans, doesn't give the film a pass for its own lack of sense. Frankly, I don't even think the writers cared that it didn't add up, they wanted to use it as a vehicle for interesting character interactions (Tony & his dad; Thor & his mom etc.), and like you said, it helped us with giving a satisfying ending. And that's all right, but it comes with a cost.

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Reply by gprivi

5 years ago

@jordyep [spoiler]You didn’t pay attention to the fact that the red vials used for time traveling are now all gone.[/spoiler]

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Reply by Jordyep

5 years ago

@gprivi So why not have Pym make some more in the present? Or have Cap steal some more in the past?

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Reply by gprivi

5 years ago

@jordyep [spoiler] Because they are the Avengers, and they don't need to mess with the past anymore. Have you seen the movies? Does Cap looks like someone who would go back and steal something as dangerous as that for the sake of it? [/spoiler]

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Reply by Jordyep

5 years ago

@gprivi Wouldn't you to save someone who died, if you had the possibility? I could list several characters that would do that in a heartbeat. Wanda would go back instantly if she could save Vision with it. Same with Hawkeye/Nat and Starlord/Gamora. Also, is it really that dangerous? At the end you have a stable timeline in 2014 with no Thanos, so you can take anything from there without time 'messing back' too much. Look, I really don't feel like getting into the details of this. In the end, I think you can conclude that the writers constructed time travel in such a convoluted way that it is really easy to find the inconsistencies and holes in it. I think it would've been smarter if they'd kept it more simple, which is usually what the MCU does best anyway.

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Reply by FinnQuill

5 years ago

@jordyep I love it when my friends rip me out of my perfectly fine timeline and drop me into their own because they miss a version of me that will never exist... I'm sure [spoiler]alternate Nat would just love to be taken away from her version of her friends to fill a hole in a universe she doesn't know that is years ahead of the one she knows[/spoiler]. [spoiler]That version of Time Travel is not a cure all, and I'm sure they don't intend to recreate it, not to mention the machine they used to do it is destroyed, and the mind that made it is gone. I wouldn't doubt he probably got rid of any data on how to recreate it, and I'm sure the very ever-cautious Banner is not going to go: 'Oh yeah, let's try to rebuild that.'[/spoiler]

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Reply by Jordyep

5 years ago

@finnquill Ah, but if future you would show up right now, saying that you can either come with him and live, or die in 1/2 years, what would you do? I’m sure they don’t want to recreate it, but that’s only because the writing dictates so, not because it’s logical. Also, there is a time machine at the end, it’s the one they use to bring the stones back.

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