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K0bin says...

2 years ago

A weirdly paced, pretty much pointless second act left me bored. Despite the limitless possibilities of a multiverse, they came up with an incredibly bland and uninteresting alternate universe.

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Elicx says...

2 years ago

A good film ruined by political correctness and silly writing.

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Reply by The_Argentinian

2 years ago

@elicx what the hell was PC about this? I swear, you right wing manbabies see agendas everywhere... Smh

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Reply by blakblu

2 years ago

@elicx Complete goofball writing, this was an embarassment and a cash grab. does science exist in at least one of the infinite multiverses? I guess not.

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ovinar says...

2 years ago

Really wanted one universe jump where he meets himself as Sherlock Holmes :drooling_face:

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Reply by garamat43

2 years ago

lmaooo that's a really good idea

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celozzip says...

2 years ago

Meh. Felt like more like a Wandavision two part finale. The treatment of the Illuminati was awful. The plot still doesn't make sense. Is Wanda bad or is she the victim or what? She should have been locked in magic prison after her show - she mindraped thousands of people - but whatever, she cries a lot so I guess we should like her again? Claptrap.

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Reply by Aniela Krajewska

2 years ago

@celozzip Tbh when I watched WandaVision I thought Wanda was initially in some kind of dissociative state caused by grief and she didn't realize what she was doing - once she realized she was hurting people, she let everyone go. In this movie she's under the influence of the Darkhold, so once again she's not fully in control. Also, I don't understand why Wanda gets so much hate for Westview yet I don't see nearly as much hate for Hawkeye for going on a 5 year murder spree after his family got dusted, or for Tony for being a war profiteer and not thinking his career choice of selling weapons of mass destruction was a bit fucked up till they were used against him. Loki is a big fan favorite despite probably racking up a death count in the thousands after unleashing giant monsters on NYC. Also Strange nearly broke the multiverse for shits and giggles because a teenager wanted help with his college admissions, and then he brainwashed billions of people into forgetting who Spider-Man is.

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Reply by inspecthor

2 years ago

@aniela-krajewska It's not for having done bad things, it's because the show constantly pities her as if those events were something dramatic that happened to her instead of her own wrongdoings. In wandavision she is presented as the focus of the tragedy rather than the pain she caused on other people. Same in this movie, all the nameless people she's killed don't matter as much as seeing her kids scared which makes her very very sad. The other characters don't get this treatment, we're meant to feel bad for what they did more than for them

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Reply by Aniela Krajewska

2 years ago

@inspecthor I don’t remember anyone feeling bad for all the lives that Tony indirectly took when he was playing warlord (which included Wanda’s parents) or for the casualties Loki caused because of his daddy issues. They have way more “nameless people” on their conscience than Wanda yet no one talks about it because they’re seen as cool characters I guess. The pain they caused is never the focus of the story either. Tony is redeemed immediately. We never see him lose a wink of sleep over it. Loki is never shown regretting all the lives he took either. Wanda did a lot of bad shit, no question about it, but unlike a lot of the other characters, she wasn’t in control for at least parts of it. We don’t know exactly how much the Darkhold influenced her to do what she did in this movie. It’s also not clear how much of what she did in Westview was deliberate. Like I said, watching it I got the impression that Wanda was not aware of her actions for a big part of it. Dissociation as a result of grief is a documented thing. So yeah, actually, some of the stuff did happen to her because she wasn’t in control, and that makes it tragic. She is a tragic character because her overwhelming grief (girlie has lost everyone she’s ever loved, and that would break anybody) drove her to do something she didn’t know she was capable of, which in turn led her to even more grief, which led her to Darkhold (which she started studying to understand her powers, probably to avoid another Westview in the future), which led her to being consumed by ancient dark magic. No other character has been put through nearly as much shit as she went through. So yeah, I for one do feel bad for her.

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Reply by inspecthor

2 years ago

@aniela-krajewska We're repeatedly reminded of the wrong things Tony did. Like you said by Wanda and his brother in Ultron, by a woman who lost her child in Sokovia because of him (watching that scene it's clear he lost sleep over it), by both villains in the first and second Spiderman... The difference is that he actually learns and is not treated like the victim for having to change. But when Wanda gives up her illusion and has to confront the Westview people she's told that ''they'll never know what she sacrificed for them'' as if their anger is unreasonable, then she proceed to do something worse. Still It's not about her morality, terrible people like Loki can still be likeable characters, but the show should be more honest about it instead of excusing her as not being in control

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Reply by Aniela Krajewska

2 years ago

@inspecthor The thing is, whether or not Loki or any character is likable/redeemable/etc., at the end of the day it really comes down to personal preference. I love Wanda, always have and always will, even if she does terrible things in this movie - but then again, a lot of my favorite characters have done terrible things. I find her to be super interesting and a hell of a lot compelling that a lot of other characters. I do think that Monica saying that to Wanda at the end of WandaVision was dumb. It was clear that Wanda did feel guilty about what she did and she never meant for it to happen or for any harm to come to those people, and she herself never claimed they weren't justified in their anger, it was another character who rather lamely tried to do so. I don't think her not being in control is an excuse so much as it is an explanation. Bucky was brainwashed by HYDRA into killing who knows how many people, and I can understand that he wasn't in control of his actions and can't be fully blamed, which is exactly how I feel about Wanda in WandaVision - she definitely wasn't in her right mind for a big part of it, literally driven mad with grief which triggered her powers in a way she couldn't understand or fully control. I can feel compassion for her because it’s an impossible situation to find oneself in. (Also, I don't remember if Tony ever actually has to face up to what Wanda went through because of him - I know we as the audience are told about it, but I don't think Wanda ever confronts him about it, which is wasted potential, because she's not just another nameless civilian who was hurt by his weapons, she's one of the main characters and they really could've done something interesting with it.)

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Reply by blakblu

2 years ago

@celozzip Bruh, elephant in the room, infinite multiverses means there should have been millions of Wandas, and the rule to multiverses is "anything that can happen, will happen" thus one of the Wanda's would have succeded, right. Marvel writers are really idiots, I am not sure how they keep their jobs. Paul you are so right!

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justenbennett says...

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2 years ago

They really said Fuck Wandavision here. As if any of that character growth and emotional journey had never happened. Plus, the dialogue was flat and full of clichés and what kind of unearned plot device is a randomly convenient Memory Bank? Ugh.

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Reply by blakblu

2 years ago

@justenbennett Finnally, someone saying what I am saying, Marvel completely dismantles every movie before this one, with a horrible story full of rediculous plot holes and a obvious ignorance to Math and Science.

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MaiahAndrade says...

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2 years ago

The end of the movie was the very first time I agreed with one of Wanda's actions... Good thing it was her last action too.

+ Christine living to the end was odd. I get WHY it happened, but really? She could at least have closed that last door to the Good!Book.
+ Why dear Xavier had to bite the dust???? Again???? WHY????
+ Stephen finally Let It Go. ("It" being the gorgeous Xtine, that totally deserved the hot husband she got to marry)
+ Zombie!Dr.Strange was Dope.
+ America Chavez is Badass AF.

Can't wait for the next movie!

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Reply by ABSTRACTlegend

2 years ago

@maiahandrade that was just the death of that universes xavier. that just means there is a similar one in our universe. that's the exciting part

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Reply by Aniela Krajewska

2 years ago

@maiahandrade Elizabeth Olsen has apparently signed a new contract with Marvel, so I doubt we've seen the last of Wanda. As the old rule says, no body, no death.

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magic_claw says...

2 years ago

So random. Felt like a TV Movie. They had the whole multiverse at their disposal and this is what they had to show for it.

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Aniela Krajewska says...

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2 years ago

This was pretty fun. It suffers from the same problems as most other MCU movies (too many quips, undercutting emotional moments with jokes, etc.), but as a Wanda stan, I had a good time. She was gaslighting gatekeeping girlbossing all over the place and it was glorious. I was internally screaming the entire time. The _"What mouth?"_ scene made me genuinely gasp. Elizabeth Olsen outacted everyone in this movie without breaking a sweat (Academy Award _when_???). America Chavez is my child now. The Illuminati were a fun bunch, even if they got pulverized in 2 minutes flat. Still, I loved all of it: Peggy Carter as Captain America, Maria Rambeau as Captain Marvel, Black Bolt being played by the same actor as in Inhumans - yes, I was one of 5 people who watched that awful show in its entirety - Professor X finally joining the MCU, and John Krasinsky getting a superhero role at last. I was also glad to see Rachel McAdams in a bigger role this time around. Some of the lines were over-the-top cringy and the whole thing really felt like a B-horror movie, but at least they tried to do something different.

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Reply by AgentGrazzhopper

2 years ago

@aniela-krajewska "but as a Wanda stan, I had a good time. She was gaslighting gatekeeping girlbossing all over the place and it was glorious. I was internally screaming the entire time." - hahahahaha YES, I feel that!

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mavrik316 says...

2 years ago

Feeling a bit swindled. Its a Scarlet Witch movie. The movie is about her no matter what spin you want to put on it. I was expecting a lot more cameos but the Illuminati scene held up. MASSIVE opportunity missed to include White Vision! Remi done well and some parts were fun but felt rehashed from pervious movies. Wong is a weak Sorcerer Supreme to the point it’s infuriating. Graphically they done well and its a bright, sharp CGI fest. Soundtrack was pretty standard, no real clinch tracks. Xochitl over acted her part, if she was directed that way then thats on the studio but constant screams and dramatic facial expressions and beyond cringe. Hopefully she will remain a foot note.

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CountVertigo says...

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2 years ago

Went into this one with expectations of epic proportions after how much I've loved Spider-Man NWH, but I didn't feel this one. The acting and CGI was top notch but it's Marvel, so that shouldn't really be mentioned as an upside. The script wasn't really good and the whole "multiverse" concept and theme felt like false advertising for me. And don't even get me started on the cameos.
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Multiverse of Madness means the main universe and one extra apparently.
Nothing about mutants being brought to the MCU, Prof. X gets about 4 minutes of screen time and a stupid death.
Why the fuck did John Krasinski play Mr. Fantastic? Was Ioan Gruffudd busy or what?
Also Strange Supreme was a total fuck-up and false advertising.
So many missed opportunities... Michael B. Jordan Black Panther, Tom Cruise Iron Man, Chris Evans Human Torch, any Quicksilver, any Blade, damn.
And the post credit scene. Just a big fuck you to ticket payers.
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Kaleidox says...

2 years ago

What marvel did to Charles Xavier is blasphemy.

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dreadlockuni says...

2 years ago

World Premiere Review: Sam Raimi, you legend. This was one of, if not the most, fun MCU movie yet. It's very Evil Dead inspired visually, particularly the camera work. The character arcs here are fantastic, the action is wonderfully violent (the multiverse gives so much opportunity to kill off characters without impacting the main timeline too much), and the pacing is great, just go see it.

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Reply by Warcry

2 years ago

Totally agree, just sad they killed THAT Reed Richards, I was over the roof when i saw it.

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Reply by Lainfan

2 years ago

[Spoiler] And just how many times can they kill off Stewart's Xavier xD Sad to see him die again. [/spoiler]

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Reply by The_Argentinian

2 years ago

@dreadlockuni more fun than Ragnarok? I don't think so. Some would even rank the first Guardians above.

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Reply by blakblu

2 years ago

@dreadlockuni How can this movie be a 9, I give it a 1, the story had plot holes you could navigate Jupiter through. Science and Math are completely disregarded. And it was clearly written by an extremly dumb chimpanzee. I fell asleep on it after 10 minutes. rewatching was like pulling teeth. Marvel has no idea what the word "infinite" means. And a sequel should never make the original movie completely irrelevant.

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Jim222001 says...

3 years ago

Probably should have Vision and Agatha “cameo” added to the cast.

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kieranlittleuk says...

2 years ago

You don’t really need to watch what if to understand this but it’ll help. You really do need to see Wanda vision though, you don’t have to but it would be incredibly confusing if you don’t understand wandas motivations as she is the main antagonist

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Reply by Xenzio-deleted-1651828602

2 years ago

@kieranlittleuk What If...? definitely isn't necessary, and WandaVision's plot gets layed out throughout the ENTIRE movie (minus Vision's storyline in the show). There's really no need to watch either of them, with exception for emotional value, I guess. Story-wise, WV gets explained, several times, by several characters.

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Reply by stranget

2 years ago

@kieranlittleuk I think saying she is *that* is kind of a spoiler, maybe you should put it between the spoiler thingy idk how to call it

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Reply by morphinapg

2 years ago

@xenzio Just because the movie technically explains it doesn't mean you won't feel like you've missed something

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Reply by javatarz

2 years ago

@kieranlittleuk I'd mark this as a spoiler just in case. Everything after the "motivations" bit is not shown in the trailers AFAIK and thus is a spoiler. Other than that, this comment is bang on!

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Reply by Jim222001

2 years ago

@kieranlittleuk My problem was that she has kids but no Vision in any universe ?

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Reply by Lainfan

2 years ago

@kieranlittleuk I would say yes and no. It is an important backstory for the events in this movie, but at the same time it contradicts or cancels out the character development Wanda goes through in WV. (This was tbh quite the disappointment for me in the movie. I was not looking for a rehash of the same development.)

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queensroe says...

5 years ago

released some time in 2020

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Reply by Agent0086

3 years ago

@queensroe You know, you say that...

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Reply by StephanOtter

3 years ago

@queensroe Maybe in some other multiverse.

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steveb77 says...

2 years ago

Sam Raimi brings us Evil Dead for the Marvel Universe.

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Reply by blakblu

2 years ago

@steveb77 Only Bible Thumpers would like this crappy movie, since they dont believe in "science".

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Maarten Delfgou says...

2 years ago

Marvel Cinematic Universe
The Infinity Saga
Phase One
Iron Man (2008) https://trakt.tv/movies/iron-man-2008
The incredible Hulk (2008) https://trakt.tv/movies/the-incredible-hulk-2008
Iron Man 2 (2010) https://trakt.tv/movies/iron-man-2-2010
Thor (2011) https://trakt.tv/movies/thor-2011
Captain America: The First Avenger (2011) https://trakt.tv/movies/captain-america-the-first-avenger-2011
The Avengers (2012) https://trakt.tv/movies/the-avengers-2012
Phase Two
Iron Man 3 (2013) https://trakt.tv/movies/iron-man-3-2013
Thor: The Dark World (2013) https://trakt.tv/movies/thor-the-dark-world-2013
Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014) https://trakt.tv/movies/captain-america-the-winter-soldier-2014
Guardians of the Galaxy (2014) https://trakt.tv/movies/guardians-of-the-galaxy-2014
Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015) https://trakt.tv/movies/avengers-age-of-ultron-2015
Ant-Man (2015) https://trakt.tv/movies/ant-man-2015
Phase Three
Captain America: Civil War (2016) https://trakt.tv/movies/captain-america-civil-war-2016
Doctor Strange (2016) https://trakt.tv/movies/doctor-strange-2016
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (2017) https://trakt.tv/movies/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-2017
Spider-Man: Homecoming (2017) https://trakt.tv/movies/spider-man-homecoming-2017
Thor: Ragnarok (2017) https://trakt.tv/movies/thor-ragnarok-2017
Black Panther (2018) https://trakt.tv/movies/black-panther-2018
Avengers: Infinity War (2018) https://trakt.tv/movies/avengers-infinity-war-2018
Ant-Man and the Wasp (2018) https://trakt.tv/movies/ant-man-and-the-wasp-2018
Captain Marvel (2019) https://trakt.tv/movies/captain-marvel-2019
Avengers: Endgame (2019) https://trakt.tv/movies/avengers-endgame-2019
Spider-Man: Far From Home (2019) https://trakt.tv/movies/spider-man-far-from-home-2019
Phase Four
Black Widow (2021) https://trakt.tv/movies/black-widow-2021
Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings (2021) https://trakt.tv/movies/shang-chi-and-the-legend-of-the-ten-rings-2021
Eternals (2021) https://trakt.tv/movies/eternals-2021

Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021) https://trakt.tv/movies/spider-man-no-way-home-2021
Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness (2022) https://trakt.tv/movies/doctor-strange-in-the-multiverse-of-madness-2022
Thor: Love and Thunder (2022) https://trakt.tv/movies/thor-love-and-thunder-2022
Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (2022) https://trakt.tv/movies/black-panther-wakanda-forever-2022
The Marvels (2023) https://trakt.tv/movies/the-marvels-2023
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 ((2023) https://trakt.tv/movies/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-3-2023
Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania (2023) https://trakt.tv/movies/ant-man-and-the-wasp-quantumania-2023
Fantastic Four https://trakt.tv/movies/fantastic-four

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