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User Reviews for: Ghost in the Shell

toliman
8/10  7 years ago
Additional Comments: I personally would watch it again. I chose to give it an 8, but that's because I'm certain that the Bluray/UHD will have some of the backstory or extended scenes, and the 3D is worth the extra point over the 6 it earns as a movie.

The visuals and style give it a definite popcorn, forgettable extravagance, that make it worth the watch, maybe not the rewatch. I like the movie a lot at times, but there are problems that can't be erased by liking the movie. I could understand someone giving it a 4 or a 5, or a 9/10 and not feel it was undue.

Music choice was poor from Clint Mansell & co, the choice to synth their way through the birth/build scene was tepid, and the choice to use the recognisable Kenji Kawai marriage song in the end credits, ruins the song's impact when it is so strikingly different to the music in the movie. I think they went with an Aoki dubstep remix version in the end though.

With the same visual setting, characters and large sprawling universe, a different director would be able to make a very clean break and a very modern movie with action, combat, noir procedural elements and strong essential conflicts, with the same crew and same material, given a handful of reshoots to re-establish characters, trim out plot and add needed tone, conflicts, plot elements. It would also be a 2hr 10 movie.

but ... this is not that movie. It may not deserve an 7 or an 8 if you find the acting stilted or the directing and plot unworkable, those are definitely glaring issues. A sequel would be infinitely better than what was produced, but, it might not get that chance either. what's left, is a mess of good ideas, great production, great actors and a hollow experience.

The casting is not a problem IMO, The actors all do a good job, despite the dubious direction notes and action oriented scripting.

I mentioned that the beginning is broken, here's why.

There's a whole year or more from ScarJo's "Character building" birth scene, to working in Section 9 that's jumped over.
We don't see the whole Section 9 team in action against a formidable threat, so we don't see how far above the plebs she is, only that she can get the job done by herself, which is not a team. We also don't get a sense of cohesion or malice from the antagonists; Kuze and Cutter are both shallow villains. Against a stronger, evolving or defining threat, Team building might have been more capable, but they never really get to go all out, which points to a flawed understanding of the material as well.

The plot, tends towards action, instead of emotion or menace, and can seem boring at times where it's trying to put you into the setting, but feels bolted on; Go here, Shoot now. Look around.
There's just a sense of disconnection between rooms and jumps where the theme or mood changes during exposition. Some of this disconnect is also because the camera always tracks the Major's location or POV when present. It also becomes the ScarJo Show as she is relearning how to act human at times, which is an unusual tone given how much time has passed since the Anime; that Androids having existential crises is not that unfamiliar for scifi or regular TV content, nor is she played as being a full cyborg and having trouble with the adaptation.

Again, it's skipped over neatly, which is a concern, especially during the 'glitches', moments where she flashes or hallucinates images, which is not treated as a significant problem or has concern shown by humans in the setting. This is perhaps a uniquely expensive cyborg system; that any significant integration or memory, visual problems are played off, is dubious.

This would be mildly disastrous in another setting. We do learn later why this is, but in the context of her being "the first" or at least, "the best" or cynically, "cybernetic weapons system that is fulfilling a lucrative government contract", it's off-putting that they don't focus or delve into the problem for the Major's benefit, or treat it as a serious problem.

Dr Ouelet (Binoche) drops the ball frequently, playing a surrogate mother and doctor for Major Mira. It's perhaps the oddest mix of distant affection and concern. Direction is quirky when it comes to these scenes as if the camera wants to pan in, but moves aside. As with Warcraft, the Editing and Direction led to character and world building mis-steps early on, where there's just a sense of confusion and odd acting choices, notably from Binoche, who is supposed to present a maternal instinct, or should have, but does not follow through.

It's also one of the plot and character mis-steps that Kuze, an italian actor, and Major... Mira Killian (i.e. like Aldrich Killian from Iron Man 3), an irish name and a scandinavian actress (sic) could have been explained as a design choice by Ouelet. Given that they can craft any imaginable face, it should have been a plot point for continuity that these bodies are her creations. But they skimmed over it, as with the choice of Major, a military rank, which begs questions the movie glosses over as well. They aren't shy when it comes to exposition later on or spending time on 'individuality' or 'consent', concepts that date the movie and feel as if they came from an earlier script that played on these ideas more.

Unfortunately, where the movie tries to invoke thought or concern, it does not work. The best ideas are cribbed from the Anime, and presented as visual motifs and eye candy. Yes, it works well, but it does not gel into the story, especially in the final act where dubious choices are made on behalf of the Major, that don't feel earned at that time, although they are satisfying within the setting. The ending, works. The middle, works, and you do get used to the world setting.

Given modern Sci-Fi ideas, any straight adaptation would fail to have a resounding feeling of accomplishment, given that The Matrix stole all of the uniqueness, and dressed up those elements to make them cliche. What's left that stands out, is the Noir and the procedural elements, both of which they drop the ball on. Noting in the movie feels original unfortunately, because it is playing it safe.

Admittedly the visuals are knockouts, the CG is top notch, you wouldn't know it was filmed in New Zealand with Hong Kong features, buildings and ambient settings, Several times i've had to remember what was supposed to be Japan in the movie, since it strays so far from Japanese cultural settings.

I've also since seen and read about 20 reviews of varying quality and content, and while each have their fair share of complaints and advice, none really define the problems or give it fair criticism.

I'd like to see a sequel with the same cast, and same production teams, with the freedom to move around more, to explore the japanese setting, more than the H.K. skyline, and have some quintessentially more unique protagonists. Laughing Man 2.0 with a touch of Wikileaks flavored revelations, would probably work exceptionally well, as it allows for the buildup and the team to work together, more politics, and more antagonists, more action, and more tech noir.

Original review:
Saw an Advanced screening.

It looks okay, not sure what I'd give it as a rating though.

Some CG is a bit wonky with driving scenes sic., they also pulled a ton of homage scenes from the original anime movie, the new movie, arise, and the SAC series. More than it should have at times, because they murdered the intent of the original scenes to pay respect. The beginning of the film feels Very, Very broken, but it gets better after about 20 minutes once you get settled in the world. Almost as if they reassembled or cut it a few dozen times and forgot what it was supposed to be.

Overall it is a bright and sunny blade runner in HK.

Odd mix of visual and audio and tech/world building styles and direction as well. Good, but a little bit of a compromise with the source material(s) to get 3 or 4 anime movies worth in 1 movie.

It doesn't feel as wonky as the Warcraft movie although the similarities are there in the frequency of CG to actors. Design looks practical and shadows, skin and effective suspension of belief that the Warcraft movie did not pull off.

Plot is amalgam of kuze and puppet master stories, and it's good. They pulled the punches on the metaphysical aspect of 'the dive' into cyberspace or the digital brain, but it was inevitable. It was the weakest part of the movie in some ways.

Will edit if I think of anything else. Probably give it a watch with someone who hasn't seen ghost in the shell to compare their experience with the material.
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ctt2canuckt
5/10  7 years ago
The film special effects of the scenes are breathtaking. And when a review starts with the special effects, the film has failed. The scenes special effects are so busy and take up so much screen time that they distract from the story. Director Rupert Sanders also must think that people who see his movies are dimwitted, because he beats up the audience with exposition explaining the film over and over to the point of abuse. We get that Major is a cyborg with only her brain being human, we get it. We got it in the first scene, but Rupert has to tell us over and over in the film. The film spends so much time on special effects shots and exposition that it totally lost the depth of the anime for which the film is based. I also found Scarlett Johansson's performance hurt by the low emotional state of the other characters in the film. When everyone else is acting robotic, it is impossible to establish that her character feels withdrawn from the world. Did I mention that Major is a cyborg with only a human brain? Overall the film has a few good scenes, a strong ending and the rest is boring and insulting. See it only for the beautiful Scenes,... and Major is a cyborg with a human brain.


Note: If you seen this film and have not seen the anime it is based upon, do not let this film turn you off of seeing it.
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Reply by jamatiknakmuay
7 years ago
@ctt2canuckt second, except: this is no strong ending, it's terrible. After dull minding the story to one psychical villain (company boss for money/power usual stupid shit) and removing the puppetmaster from the story the ending (union) makes no sense, is terrible, they don't even try to explain. So cutting of all what makes Gits-anime good (except special effects;), they could skipped the gits license in first place and just made a special effects/action movie. These are just stupid, greedy filmmakers. Watch "The Expanse" and imagine what such capable creators would have done with the gits template.
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NotoriousX
4/10  7 years ago
When it comes to cinematography Ghost in the Shell is by far the best in some time, but story and acting wise it leaves a lot to desire.

The story is shallow and has plot holes the size of Grand Canyon. I know you can fit just so much in one and three-quarter hours, but this is ridiculous. I have no idea how someone that isn't aware of the universe from before has a snowball's chance in hell to make sense of this. And to add insult to injury, there's so little character development that you barely care for the Major let alone the supporting cast.

When it comes to the acting, Scarlett Johansson does a passable Major, but for some reason, she lacks the elegance of the Major from the anime. She reminds me more of an alien than a robot with a human brain. The supporting cast is mostly ok. The ones we get to see enough of to make an opinion on that is...

I can't really recommend this one to anyone, but you might wanna watch it if you are a hardcore fan of the anime universe just for the sheer beauty of it...

Definitely beautiful, but severely flawed...
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Reply by jamatiknakmuay
7 years ago
@notoriousx <br /> "I know you can fit just so much in one and three-quarter hours, but this is ridiculous."<br /> <br /> I don't know, what you mean with this sentence. The original anime did it in 83min with a far more complex story.<br /> The simplification in this movie to the usual Hollywood plot happenings, changing the ideas of the story in important parts, instead concentrating on the 2 key action scenes made it worse by force. No matter the length of a movie.<br /> And you can't say Gits1 (or Gits2) anime are fast paced...
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Reply by NotoriousX
7 years ago
@jamatiknakmuay <br /> That line was meant to be somewhat ironic, but such things don't translate well into text. <br /> <br /> Generally...I do agree with you, but I often find that anime and live action movies are very different in how they convey a story. This even applies to live action made in Japan. For some reason, anime seems to translate "bad" to the live screen. Comparing the two can be a bit unfair, as the tools are quite different...<br /> <br /> BUT...In this instance, I think they try to explain too much. They try and convey a complex universe to those that haven't seen the anime. Yes...they simplified and changed...and failed miserably.
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Salt-and-Limes
/10  6 years ago
I am writing this review as someone who hasn't seen the original anime. I have also been very critical of the whitewashing of this film. With that I aside, I went to see it with willingness to give it the benefit of the doubt. "Ghost in the Shell" is well...a beautiful shell.

The visuals were absolutely breath taking. The action scenes flowed so beautifully with special effects. But that's all the movie had to offer. Take away the spectacles and you have a basic run-of-the-mill action movie.

The acting was fine. But honestly, the leads didn't have anything to actually sink their teeth into. Scarjo, and everyone else, was serviceable.

If you're looking for some mindless, yet stunning entertainment, then go see it.
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Wanderless
/10  6 years ago
I've watched Ghost in the Shell at the cinema 3 days ago, knowing
beforehand about the controversies that have surrounded this movie for
the last 6 months or so. Science fiction movies are probably my
favorite genre and I also enjoyed most of Scarlett's movies for the
past 8-9 years so those two factors were a plus for me going in.

Regarding the whitewashing business, I think its been blown way, WAY
out of proportion by social justice warriors with nothing better to do
than drag media attention over whatever they're feeling insecure about
this month/year. For those of you who might be on the fence about
watching a Caucasian actress in the role that (supposedly) should've
been reserved to an Asian actress, please consider this a NON-MATTER
and watch it anyway. The character she is portraying is SUPPOSED to
look Caucasian/white. It was the same in the source material and even
the creator of that anime said so in interviews.

Now, is the movie any good? In my opinion, yes. Yes it was. It wasn't
amazing but at the very least entertaining. There is a good amount of
people who score this a 1/10 because they are butt hurt that the story
was changed a lot. Please ignore them and see for yourself even if
you're a fan of the anime and are able to keep an open mind. I think
maybe I was able to judge it more objectively because I had zero
knowledge about the story in the anime going in, but, if nothing else,
the movie actually made me want to watch those old ones to compare.

The acting - 7.5/10 - Since Scarlett Johansson is the only big name
that the movie is being marketed alongside, I'd say she did a good job.
At no point in the movie could I say she didn't belong there. She
played the part of cyborg who had difficulty belonging in a human world
very well. The cast is diverse enough in my opinion, though some of
them get pretty little screen time.

The visuals - 9/10 - If there is one point most critics/viewers are in
alignment concerning this movie, that point is definitely the visuals.
The movie both looks and feels spectacular, with the futuristic city
looking like a close-future mix of Blade Runner and TRON. The
combination of CGI and practical effects looks organic, the movie's
powerful themes of excessive self-augmentation and technology almost
running amok represented very well visually.

Soundtrack - 8/10 - Sometimes pretty subdued, sometimes
almost-but-not-quite in your face, I found the soundtrack to vary
between decent and very good in some moments. It didn't MAKE the movie
but it enhanced a good deal in my opinion.

Story - 7/10 - Here is where the good points of the movie kinda start
to run dry. A lot of other people would probably rate it a lot lower,
with 5 or 4's if they're at least trying to be objective. Yes, the
story is fairly predictable, and the fact that the movie is only around
100 minutes long doesn't do it any favors either. Here is probably
where most of the legitimate hate towards this movie stems from. The
creators adapted a story that had a lot more depth and philosophical
insight and turned it into a somewhat generic cyborg coming of age
story mixed with an evil corporation doing questionable things. The
villain is also very cookie-cutter and has almost zero depth. HOWEVER,
I do think that concerning this film's particular themes and narrative,
a weak villain doesn't hurt it so much since its more about
losing/gaining your humanity through technology than any bad guy trying
to shoot you.

Writing/Dialogue - 6/10 - By far the movie's weakest aspect. In fact, I
believe if some more meaningful dialogue and character interactions
were written into this film, it could've easily been 1 or 2 points
higher on anyone's scoring system. As it is, the dialogue is shallow
and fairly run-of-the-mill for about half the movie's length. Some bits
of good interactions are sprinkled here and there, and thankfully
that's enough to preserve the soul of the movie's central theme of
human souls surviving in machine bodies, BUT not enough to give Ghost
in the Shell the depth it should've inherited from the source material.

Overall - I gave this movie 3.5/5 stars here, mostly because I
couldn't give it a 7.5/10 which felt more appropriate to me. My advice
would be to not listen to the whitewashing nonsense, because that's
exactly what it is, nonsense. Also don't listen to the haters who rate
this movie a 1/10 or call it shit because those people should not be
reviewing anything to begin with. It is a decent movie, with great
visuals and a theme that might get you thinking for a couple of days
after seeing it. The acting is decent, with an above average
performance from Scarlett and a good soundtrack that might hit the
right spot on occasion. The only bad aspects, like I mentioned, are the
film's rather short running time and weak dialogue/writing which hold
it back from being truly great.
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