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Carolajn
CONTAINS SPOILERS7/10  7 years ago
I have kind of a problem with this film. Definitely it's good drama but honestly, I have no idea why many people perceive it as a comedy. Ok, some of the scenes are remotely funny but while I've heard opinions that people almost died with laughter watching this, for me it was a truly sad film and I read somewhere that the cast thought of it the same way. Don't get me wrong, I usually love such weird and original humour but this time the sadness and feeling of loneliness were overbearing.

And for sure it was good. The gradual storytelling, getting to know the characters, I won't complain about the screentime because it's worth it and I didn't feel like it was tedious or forced. But my problem is: I have a real, total antipathy against Toni/Winfried. I understand his will to connect with the daughter and show her "life" but the way he is trying to achieve that is so irritating and without respect towards his daughter's life.

The final scene also left me with mixed feelings about his behaviour throughout the film [spoiler] One second he tells Ines that life is all about cherishing moments, and then he leaves for A CAMERA? Really? It's like he left Ines AGAIN, all alone and waiting as, I've felt, it's been for a majority of her life. Maybe that's the whole point of his character? [/spoiler]

The film is really well directed and I recommend it to everyone, it's just a matter of perception of the main characters (really well acted, especially Huller was amazing) and their behaviour.
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Reply by Abstractals-deleted-1574644440
7 years ago
@carolajn Imma uplike your review for your honesty. <br /> <br /> I think the sadness and loneliness was definitely intentional, and I suspect that led to a lot of theatre audiences laughing more out of the emotional dissonance and discomfort than actual comedy. One subtle element that escaped me on my first watch, though, was [spoiler]how (male) Erdmann immediately seemed to lend (female) Ines credibility in the eyes of her potential business partners, despite the fact that he was obviously an uninformed, unkempt idiot.[/spoiler] There's a subtle feminist throughline here that European audiences might 'get' better than Western ones. <br /> <br /> As well, that moment where Ines is [spoiler]dealing with her naked assistant -- facing a young version of herself so eager to abandon her clothes, and her dignity, for the sake of "getting ahead" --[/spoiler] was both heartbreaking and hilarious. I don't think I laughed out loud at that, but I could imagine an audience doing so.<br /> <br /> Also, note that writer/director Maren Ade herself tried to undersell the comedy, by saying, "It's a movie about humor, but it's not very funny." <br /> <br /> As for the [spoiler]final going-to-get-a-camera gag[/spoiler]. I interpret it as a joke; a way for Winfried to winkingly show Ines that even his "live life fully" advice shouldn't itself become a hard and fast rule.
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Reply by benoliver999
7 years ago
@carolajn <br /> <br /> &gt; I have kind of a problem with this film. Definitely it's good drama but honestly, I have no idea why many people perceive it as a comedy. Ok, some of the scenes are remotely funny but while I've heard opinions that people almost died with laughter watching this, for me it was a truly sad film and I read somewhere that the cast thought of it the same way.<br /> <br /> Could not agree more. The gentle humour throughout was charming but people saying it's the funniest thing in years are kidding themselves. It's still a great film and deserves all the praise it's been getting, but I'd be surprised if most people go beyond a wry smile and occasional chuckle.
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awek
7/10  7 years ago
dziewczyna robiąca karierę, samotna, bzykająca się z plastikowym kolesiem, nudząca się z równie plastikowymi jak ona koleżankami, obracająca się w "wielkim świecie" wielkich biznesów.. i ojciec.. który widząc ją taką niedostępną, odkrywa jej plastikowy świat i próbuje pomóc.. chmm gdy czytałam recenzje, myślałam, że ojciec będzie takim klaunem, będzie przeginał, będzie robił siarę z jej życia.. rzeczywistość filmowa okazała się bardziej subtelna. owszem.. przebiera się.. owszem, może i trochę robi z siebie idiotę, zresztą, czy naprawdę idiotę?.. dziewczyna jest sztywna, skoncentrowana na sobie, sukcesie.. przełomem jest scena, gdy ojciec zabiera ją do przypadkiem poznanej rodziny, zostawia przy malowaniu wielkanocnych jajek i każe śpiewać.. o miłości.. i rodzinie.. i relacjach.. jaki film? fajny... jakieś tam sceny seksu, dosłowna nagość, ale jakaś taka nierażąca. miotanie ojca, który próbuje nauczyć swoje własne dorosłe dziecko, by choć chwilę zaczęło cieszyć się życiem... niesamowite.. i nawet, jeśli ojciec robi z siebie klauna, nawet, jeśli udaje przed jej przyjaciółmi a to ambasadora a to coucha.. nawet jeśli gra, bawi się to., znając jego cel, film staje się taki.. tragiczny.. udaje się? nie wiem.. czy da się nauczyć dorosłą osobę, żeby zaczęła żyć?.. właściwie zazdrościłam.. dziewczyna potrafiła przy swoim ojcu wciągnąć kokainę, potrafiła prowadzić rozmowę ze swoim wielkim bossem, ojciec.. jej na to pozwolił.. pomimo tego, że to on jej pomagał, pozwalał jej na bycie dorosłą, a ona potrafiła nie zachowywać się przy nim jak dziecko.. zresztą, może stąd ten tragizm.. jak nauczyć życia DOROSŁĄ osobę?... maybe..
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Reno
/10  6 years ago
**What do you think is worth living for?**

I had tough time to figure it out what was the thing on the poster. Seeing it upside down, with mirror, name it, I used all the tricks I know, but nothing had worked. On the other hand, I thought it might be a fantasy film with a King Kong like creature. That's the curiosity it created, people to a have different opinions and forget to expect from the film. But it was a simple comedy-drama and only way to solve the mystery is to watch the film. That's what I finally did.

The opening scene was good. But I did not think the whole film would be like that. It was about a prankster and his attempts to reach his workaholic daughter, which was the entire narration. A lifetime trip for them, that's not about the challenges in the world or the nature, but their self-discovery, the meaning of life and purpose. This is one of the beautiful films to open up about a father and daughter relationship. In the grown-up world, the people forget to live the actual life, when they give all the focus to their professional life.

I have to agree, this is a competitive world and you will be replaced by millions of other waiting behind you for such opportunity. But does it all worth doing is the real question. Doubts like that won't arise without those who love us pointing it out. It needs to be asked properly, politely. But some people take an alternate route like in this film. Sometimes it ends in an unexpected adventure to just realise what they are into. And this film was honest, to reveal as much as it can in many angles.

This is the story of Winfried. An aged and divorced music teacher who makes practical jokes to people around him. After his dog died, he decides to reconnect with his only daughter Ines, who is now working in Romania. She is on the cusp to get her desired position in the office. On her one final push for that, is now getting distracted by her father. She who never understood her father's way of life, tries to get an answer out of him about the life. So that's where their journey begins. Some of the bold steps taken by them, the film accomplishes what it wanted to tell us in a unique way.

> "The problem is it's so often about getting things done. You do this, You do that. And in the meantime, life just passes by."

The film was actually loosely based by the director's own father. The writing was brilliant. It reminded me 'Infinitely Polar Bear', because these women directors inspired by their fathers to show the world how their childhood was like. The actors were amazing, particularly those two in the main roles. I liked them both equally. From the different angle, they have given different performances. There's no surprise if you liked the film only because of them.

The film had won many prestigious awards around the globe and now its biggest stand off is at the 2017 Oscars which is a few weeks away. Another Scandinavian film, which is also nominated for the Oscar, is also about an old man like this one. But I think 'Under Sandet' is the frontrunner for the golden statue. Because we all know that America's and Academy's sentimental towards the WWII.

When it comes to rating, the film is strictly for adults. It was good in the initial parts, but there are some surprise nude and sex scenes. At that time I thought it lost its path, but actually that was the turning point where you are going to witness a different half of the film. Surely many people going love the second half more than the first.

At first, it looked like it is a German version of 'The Family Fang', but only more realistic with dark humour. It's difficult to understand every scene, especially in the first watch. Because without knowing the film characters, the events involving them look casual. Capable to get the sense of humour is the key here. So if you decide for the second time viewing, you will learn more about it. It is one of those films that second time watch necessary for some people.

Frankly, I did not think it was a great film, just after finish my watch. But thinking back about all those film events, made sense. By the time I decided to write this review, I was in its favour. That's the reason I won't write about the films right away. This is a great film, but you have to focus closely and understand everything, then you will have a great time. But remember, it is one of the longest film in the recent time, particularly for a comedy-drama, yet enjoyable. Recommended!

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