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fcosta says...

2 months ago

So it's in Japan and speaking in Japanese - great!
It envolves the Portuguese Empire and Portuguese people speak English? Come on, you could have tried more and i totally agree with the respect for Japanese language, but no respect for the Portuguese language? I didn't even finish watching the first episode - very disappointing.

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Reply by conradseba

a month ago

@fcosta I share the feeling, but apparently in the US they are too lazy to read subtitles

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Reply by MoistMakerr

4 weeks ago

@fcosta I think the difficulty is that a large part of the show is the lack of shared language. For the English speaking market that would mean all of it would be in subtitles - which is fine - but all of the subtitles would need to be prefixed with [In Japanese] and [In Portugese]. Kinda makes it hard to follow for the English speaking market. I don't think it's about respecting the Portugese language it's about comprehension. That being said, I think if you can get past that, it's a really good show.

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Reply by davos56

3 weeks ago

@fcosta Your loss. It is a brilliant series.

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Reply by countBasil

3 weeks ago

@fcosta they acknowledged in the podcast they make some concessions for simplicity (e.g. Portuguese speaking people speak English for the viewers)

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purpIerain says...

2 months ago

Man I hate how ppl can rate before a release

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Reply by TheRipper7

2 months ago

I was curious about that too. Have they seen the first episodes?

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Reply by chandramohan.kannan

2 months ago

@purpierain @theripper7 and boy, I love how people get frustrated about something they have no control over and are bothered so much as to comment about an absolute non-issue... hope that venting out helps their sanity

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Reply by Bl¡zz

2 months ago

@purpierain I think pre-rating is fine considering I go to regular Dutch commercial prepremieres which are often days-week prior to regular release and Trakt often doesn't include those at first, but maybe new titles shouldn't publish a rating until the first listed premiere.

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Reply by Hoaxr

2 months ago

Probably because book lovers always hate the movies and tv shows that are made from the books stories.

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Reply by Dugzino

2 months ago

@purpierain Go to Settings > Global > Uncheck "Display early ratings".

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conradseba says...

a month ago

Always has to be an English speaking guy to save the world, be the better man, be the handsome one, be the smartest one..... I'm so tired of the sense of superiority the Anglo-Saxon world has. 長寿日本

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Mancha Negra says...

2 months ago

Unfortunately I can't give it a high rating. I would love to hear the portuguese language in the portuguese characters. Come on, this is a historical show. These types of things make the difference between an average show and a good show.

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Reply by conradseba

a month ago

@Mancha Negra :clap::clap: well said, and those actors are not even Portuguese or Spaniards

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Raul R. Lupescu says...

6 months ago

I can't wait to watch this series!

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JL0017 says...

2 months ago

XVI century Portuguese people speak English, for some reason, but Japanese people speak Japanese.

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Reply by Nochickencurry86

2 months ago

Yeah it's baffling. Maybe they were afraid it would turn people off from watching it if it was all subtitled.

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Reply by Superkloton

2 months ago

@JL0017 17th century (1600-1700), not 16th!

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Reply by JL0017

2 months ago

@superkloton True, 1600 (00-99 years dictate the century) already counts as 17th. Thanks.

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Reply by Superkloton

2 months ago

@jl0017 WELLLL the year 1600 itself actually still belongs to the 16th century (because there was no year 0, it went straight from -1 to 1) but because the story starts in 1600 and only goes forward from there I thought it was more accurate to say 17th century. All in all just a crapload of smartassery, really :hugging:

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Reply by JL0017

2 months ago

@superkloton Oh, I see. So it catches one year of 16th century, but the bulk of the story is the subsequent century (so it makes sense to consider it on the 17th one really). No, no, not smartassery at all. :joy: Quite the opposite, I love learning these nerdy and interesting details and I don't see getting corrected as an annoyance, but as a great chance learn. Thank you :smile::heart: In this particular case, it's even something quite useful that can easily come up in day-to-day conversation.

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Reply by kuuzo

2 months ago

@jl0017 The English is Portuguese on the show. It's not rocket science, it's just so we don't have to watch 10 episodes of subtitles with actors from Portugal.

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Reply by DavidwMiller

2 months ago

@jl0017 Yeah, that's how english market shows work. Weirder bit is that English represents more than one language. The main dude is at least speaking English and Portuguese at different points, but they're both spoken as English so it's unclear which is which in conversations.

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Reply by JL0017

2 months ago

@kuuzo What's not rocket science is understanding that you either go 100% English and have the Japanese characters also speaking it or 100% native, not this half-measured nonsense. What exactly would be so wrong with having 10 subtitled episodes with Portuguese actors??? So 10 episodes of subtitled Japanese is "no problem, okey-dokey :thumbsup:", but Portuguese is where we draw the line :raised_hand:? Are subtitles a foreign and somehow very painful concept to people? Is reading hard? Can they only handle 60% of subtitled runtime before headaches? Non-native speakers have been consuming content for years with them just fine. It certainly beats cryptic foreign, mumbly/low diction accents and grunts in terms of clarity and intelligibility.

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Reply by JL0017

2 months ago

@kuuzo And actually the English is English AND Portuguese simultaneously on the show, which makes it even sillier, specially when they say they are speaking another language and continue in the same manner.

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Reply by kuuzo

2 months ago

@jl0017 Convince an American production company to finance a 10 episode series with all foreign actors and no Americans, based on a book written in English based on an English pilot. I'll wait. Every time a production comes out that uses some English so that it can be produced, people come out of the woodwork to whine. This is such an old, whiny argument. Just enjoy it.

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ABSTRACTlegend says...

3 weeks ago

It’s a shame that such a beautiful and well done show is littered with such stupid comments about language. Seriously it’s not that big of a deal.

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Reply by ┌П┐(►˛◄’)

3 weeks ago

@abstractlegend Lazy subspecies called Muricans (not all Americans, hopefully). The only thing they hate even more than subs are dubs :person_shrugging_tone1:♂

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Caketrophy says...

2 months ago

Hopefully the Portuguese characters aren't well represented

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12HD says...

4 months ago

I love me some Samurai TV show! :D

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zombiebxxk says...

2 months ago

God, I NEED more big budget historical shows like this.

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Reply by davos56

3 weeks ago

@zombiebxxk Agree. It is brilliantly done and engrossing.

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Kenneth.R says...

2 months ago

Trakt says it's not released, yet there are two episides released...what gives?

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JL0017 says...

2 months ago

Hopefully the Portuguese characters are well represented.

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JL0017 says...

2 months ago

Hopefully the Portuguese characters are well represented.

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JL0017 says...

2 months ago

Hopefully the Portuguese characters are well represented.

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Alienmoon says...

2 months ago

Shogun is a great historical adventure set in Japan's past telling the story of the Samurai and their rulers. A Must Watch and I hope the series continues after season 1.

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storm6262 says...

2 months ago

Top watch the first episode and it was great can’t fault it outstanding

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miwibzi says...

2 months ago

The Sound design and the story are lovely

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SpiderJerusalemInTheMountains says...

2 months ago

I write this part of my review BEFORE I watch anything, as I read the novel and have been wanting a good adaptation; this does not mean 1:1 from book-to-screen, just that the isn't utterly mangled through some putz's hand(s).

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Hoaxr says...

2 months ago

Best show for 2024! Love it

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Bannman says...

2 months ago

I recently watched the original show in preparation for the release of this remake. I've watched the first 3 episodes so far, and as much as it is almost a copy of the original I'm far from disappointed I'm loving the production.

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Kuligan says...

2 months ago

I read the book as a boy and was captivated by it. Only watched the first episode so far. It looks fantastic and the writers seem to be trying to be true to the book so far. Great start, really enjoyed the first episode.

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sai405 says...

2 months ago

not for me... lost interest when episode is in Japanese. English audio was useless almost.

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hugokk87 says...

2 months ago

it's pretty much all in Japanese{with English subtitles} except Europeans speaking English don't understand why show runners do this it's like shooting a movie in black and white it distracts you from the viewing experience otherwise the show is very good

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