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User Reviews for: Star Trek: Discovery

BevansDesign
7/10  7 years ago
I do like the show, but it's not Star Trek. If this was just a new sci-fi show that existed in its own universe, it would be incredible. However, the fact that they've tried to pass this off as Star Trek when it's clearly not sullies the experience.

If it wasn't already apparent, Paramount and CBS have no idea what made Star Trek great, and don't care either. The simple explanation is that the world of Star Trek is supposed to be optimistic; this is pessimistic. And I do enjoy pessimistic sci-fi, but there's so much of it, and to see one of the few optimistic sci-fi worlds turned into something pessimistic is a shame.

Fortunately, we now have The Orville, which is doing Star Trek better than anything has since Voyager ended in 2001.

The show is supposed to take place between Enterprise and TOS, but the technology is very different. For example, there are holograms everywhere. Why try to do a prequel *again*? Why not set this after Voyager? That would make a lot more sense, and they'd be able to add whatever technology they like, and not be constrained by existing continuity. Fortunately, it's not too late for the showrunners to say "hey, we made a mistake, this actually takes place X years after Voyager".

Last, they fucked up the Klingons. For almost 25 years, they had the look of the Klingons figured out perfectly. They're iconic. But this show (and the reboot movies) messed them up and made them look like generic sci-fi bad guys. What happened to their hair and beards? Also, the costumes are ridiculous, and their ship interiors look like they're made of coral. I do like the idea of having an albino Klingon though.

And I applaud their desire to use the Klingon language on the show, but it's pretty annoying having every Klingon scene subtitled. The previous shows used a common sci-fi conceit: the actors speak a language that the audience understands, but it's accepted that they're really speaking a different language. The viewer effectively has a universal translator so they can understand what's being said.

Also, it looks nothing like Star Trek. Once again, The Orville got that right, and this didn't.

All of that said, I do like the show. The characters are interesting (especially Doug Jones), I've enjoyed each episode, and I think the storyline is pretty interesting. But goddamn it, why did they have to try to make this Star Trek when it's not?
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Reply by misnomer
7 years ago
@bevansdesign I keep seeing comments regarding The Orville being more trekkie than Discovery (myself being a source of said comments), which pleases me, since it makes me realise that people out there still can tell the difference from what makes Star Trek Star Trek and what doesn't. Discovery isn't the Star Trek we used to know. It may even not be Star Trek at all (after the 5 episodes I've seen so far I would never rate it above TNG or Voyager), but there are some trekkie nuances in the show. I, for one, am quite happy that we were fortunate enough to have a show named The Orville that came out of the blue and feels very Star Trek at heart. For a show that was meant to be a satire (I think), it's doing a fine job at actually being as good as the objective of the satire. It's naive and optimistic, just like Star Trek has always been (mostly, at least).<br /> Discovery is something different. Not bad by its own, actually quite a good sci-fi show, but I also have trouble recognising Star Trek in there. It may not be what Gene had envisioned all those years ago, but it's a nice modern take on an old formula that is winning me over.<br /> <br /> I'm not sure why this reply kind of transformed into some sort of review, but I honestly just meant to say that I understand what you meant and I agree with you, though I'm enjoying Discovery very much (as a sci-fi show, I'm still trying to figure things out as a Star Trek show).
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Reply by bruffi55
6 years ago
@bevansdesign totally agree with everything you say
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Reply by JBixby
5 years ago
@bevansdesign Orville sucks and the only thing treckie about it is the nock off costumes. I will, however, agree to disagree on it being Star Trek. Well known characters from prior shows, diversity overcoming their own fears and join in for the greater good. Ok, that's every action show pretty much but, Star Trek was always acknowledging the plusses &amp; minus of themselves and overcoming going through hell. <br /> <br /> Yeah, I get ya on the languages so you must hate Lord of the Rings &amp; Game of Thrones too?
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Reply by mr_seans
5 years ago
@bevansdesign The irony of this comment is that every single thing you have said could be applied to every single star trek series post TOS.
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Reply by papakipi8hkaki
4 years ago
@bevansdesign Agree 100%. I like Discovery, but it's not genuine star trek, it's too dark and has far too many tears.
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Reply by Caty Che
4 years ago
Spot on!<br /> I've just started Discovery 2 weeks ago and a review was building up inside of me. Then I read yours and I realized you wrote it for me! The only thing how I can make sense out of this, is sell this off as an alternative universe :grin:<br /> I grew up with the original series and saw every show since. This is indeed so not Star Trek, but as you I do like it, remove Star Trek out of the title, rename the Klingons and you have a good and new interesting sci-fi series.
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Reply by fr1sket
4 years ago
@bevansdesign I agree, i like this show and just pretend it's not Star Trek and it's fine.
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Reply by Defestated
3 years ago
@bevansdesign completely disagree. I'm about as hardcore trekkie was you can get and I think this is amazing. THe first series was rocky but it's got better and better. The key to trek was always the relationships of the crew and the ship itself and this has built a great crew with brilliant relationships. It's got the best of many treks combined and is a great way to bring more in to the franchise.
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Reply by shiseiwakamoto
3 years ago
@defestated I completely agree with this. It took a while for it to really find its tone and pace (though, it wasn't in any way bad), and the most recent seasons have felt more star trek than ever. Expecting the same naivite that was found in the earlier series, would not only be very non star trek (which has always been at the forefront in its representation and interpretation of contemporary issues and topics), but also mean that it wouldn't stand a chance at competing and cutting through the noise in the current entertainment climate, where globalisation and increased access to information has made people overall, expect more sophistication from their tv shows. Still, I think it balances these conditions well with with I feel is at the core of any star trek experience. Adversity, and yes sometimes dark moments, are overcome and ultimately bring the entire star trek universe closer together.
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Reply by durack
3 years ago
@bevansdesign Looks like Season 3 writers were reading the comments here. :)
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RiGHT
5/10  5 years ago
Discovery is the worst Star Trek so far. All of the over-the-top wannebe political correctness that governs our current day society has been stuck in just this one series. A woman in the lead role - fine with me. But why to give her a male name? So that we show that its fine to not be a woman or a man? And of course a gay relationship has to be part of the main story line. And a refuge that is fighting for his oppressed people. And a disturbed brother-sister relation. And augmentations to the body for - well, whatever reason. And body-shaming. And the challenges of not accepting your own body. And a relationship of a white woman with a alien husband, she went to live with him to his place, with a mixed DNA child not being accepted by society and then adopting another kid with....... oh my God, please, is it really all necessary to be stuck into the series in such an over the top way?? Season 2 at least does not have a lot of those fake Klingons anymore. That was the worst of all, even being untrue to the original Star Trek Klingons. I'm still watching the series, but I hope it will stop trying to be so extremely endless wannebe politically correct. At times its nauseating.
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Reply by hildebread-deleted-1573600359
5 years ago
@right very well said. there are only a few new shows without that whole crap.
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Reply by JackDoddy
one year ago
@right This is Star Trek. You know, the show very well known as a bastion of introducing progressive ideas to TV-viewing audiences... relative to its time, of course. <br /> <br /> I very much find it unlikely that you are 'fine' with a woman in the lead role given how much you're reading into a name. Michael has been used throughout history as a female name, although uncommon. Less rare is shortening it from Michaela. If she actively wants a more masculine name because it matches her personality then that's on her, and there's nothing strange about writing it that way.<br /> <br /> As for the rest of it... I'm not sure you have actually watched Star Trek or The Orville. This is a universe for exploring difficult moral/ethical/philosophical problems in fun episodic form. The franchise has dealt with these 'politically correct' issues long before the term 'politically correct' was invented. Obviously, it makes sense to be analysing today's issues, rather than ones from 1967, but the concept stays the same. <br /> <br /> I do hope you continued watching with a different mindset. Being triggered over every second word will ruin any show.
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Curtwagner1984
CONTAINS SPOILERS4/10  7 years ago
So far it's pretty bad... ( the Last episode I watched is #5)...

According to Trakt, this show has 9 episodes, and so far nothing important or interesting happens. There is no actual overarching plot so far. While this was true for the first season of the Expanse too. That many different seemingly unconnected plot threads only connected at the end of the season for a big climax, here there are no multiple plot threads to connect.

The Discovery discovered mushroom magic propulsion technology which allows them to teleport their ship where they want. This is the crux of the plot so far. There is a war with the Klingons and the Discovery is the only ship equipped with the magic mushroom drive. And that's it...

This is not helped at all by how unbelievable the main character is written. She is a rebel in a military organization that *constantly* disobeys direct orders. Cpt Picard or Cpt Sisko would have kicked her out from their ship\starbase right away.

Klingons are one-dimensional villains who have only one mode 'Kill Enemies'. For some reason, they also don't want to 'culturally appropriate' the Klingon language so this results in tedious extremely long scenes where Klingon characters speak only Klingon. This happens in Game of Thrones too when they speak Valyrian, but the scenes are never as long or tedious as the Klingon speaking scenes in Discovery...

Also, normally I don't care about things like this, but it seems the show went out of its way to cast as little white men as possible. As I said, this is not something I would usually care about, but it's so comically obvious that it's disturbing. It's like they are living in a world where there was a plague that killed 90% of the staight male population...
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Reply by MetalArend
5 years ago
@curtwagner1984 Do I understand you correctly, 90% of the straight male population on Earth would be caucasian?
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benefits247
/10  6 years ago
Basically, the whole thing is a politically correct propaganda show. Everyone is an independent and capable woman. The only white male in a position of power is a single capitan, his with his flaws too. The rest? Incredibly obvious.

Episode 10 is about a parallel universe in which - although the human race rules over everything, it's painted as an evil 'Terran Empire' and villified to the max. Everyone is evil. Why? Because the core mantra of this alternate human race is - listen to this - preserving their own kind (basically, they made an episode about just how bad a racist universe might be).

Ridiculous. Watch The Orville instead, it's 100 times better and has none of this political crap in it.

Our movies and show should be politics free.
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Oduntola
/10  5 years ago
A brilliant example of current entertainment television! DSC is not only the best Star Trek to date, it represents the best of modern science fiction, period! Cinematic in scope, DSC is more imaginative, thoughtful, exciting, interesting and absolutely beautiful to watch than any other previous manifestation of Star Trek. For the first time we see a wide range of carefully developed, nuanced characters facing a variety of situations yet upholding the same Star Trek values of Gene Roddenberry. Have some of the 'usual' stereotypical characterizations taken back seat to a more diverse presentation of humanity? Absolutely! I think that is a plus NOT a minus.
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