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User Reviews for: Training Day

TheGloriousSOB
5/10  7 years ago
RIP, Bill Paxton. & w/ that being said, I must post this review. Make no mistake, Paxton's pretty much the sole reason to watch this TV version of the Denzel Washington movie, which I've seen & enjoyed; Denzel earned his Academy Award even though my parents protest Russell Crowe of "A Beautiful Mind" was robbed, but I digress. I feel like I'm the only one in Bakersfield, CA who's on Trakt & watching the show as it airs because I'm aware of the drama's flaws: low ratings, first of all, that's already put it on the brink of cancellation. Looks like Paxton's death (he already finished filming the series' episodes) will make cancellation inevitable. 2nd, the reason behind this lack of viewership: as I said, it's a TV version of the movie. Granted, TV adaptations are hit or miss, but maybe the fact it's on a rabbit-ear channel like CBS perhaps removes the bite from the R-rated movie (e.g. no F-words & nudity). & as I read from a review, the only connection to the movie is a plot point from the pilot: Det. Frank Roarke (Bill Paxton) is a rogue cop prone to be the next Alonzo Harris, the Oscar-winning role for Washington in the movie, & he was partners w/ the slain father of Kyle Craig (Justin Cornwell, assuming Ethan Hawke's role). So that's the overarching subplot, but that & other storylines & characterizations are not to different from other dramas like "Hawaii Five-O," "Scandal," "Chicago Med," or "Rosewood" which I watch occasionally. I will admit that I joked about how soon "Training Day" will be cancelled since this drama, while decent, is pretty much again not so different from "Hawaii Five-O" or "NCIS: Los Angeles." But now that Bill Paxton died, & he was the only thing worthy about the show, for the sake of this talented thespian it's only damn unfortunate that's what's to come for "Training Day."
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GenerationofSwine
/10  one year ago
First off, it was doomed to failure from the start. Training Day wasn't a good movie, it didn't have a good plot, it didn't have a good story. What it had was Denzel Washington giving one of the best performances in recent memory. He did an epic job, and it's that work that made people like the movie.

People didn't watch Training Day because it was good, they watched it because Denzel was great. And Training Day without Denzel... sucks. No one is going to be interested in it, because it was a "meh" at best, with a performance from ONE man that people still talk about.

Give it another 20 years, people will probably still be talking about Denzel's performance in Training Day.

Let's be honest, they don't watch it for Ethan Hawke. People don't even watch it because they like the movie, they watch it because they loved Denzel's role in the movie.

But it was also 2017, and they had to race swap the bad guy, which people were already starting to roll their eyes at back then. It's also a big red flag. Washington was LEGENDARY in the movie, and that couldn't be made today because he's... Black. There, I said it.

Denzel Washington is Black and because of his race, we could possibly be deprived of another legendary performance because villainy in Hollywood is exclusively reserved for white men. Let that sink in for a moment.

The best role of 2001, a role that Denzel nailed, a role that he will go down in history for... and it can't be made today because Denzel is Black. Maybe they would cast him in Hawke's place, but that wouldn't give him the ability to pack the punch he had in the film. That role just wasn't as good, he couldn't take it away like he did.

So, 2017 comes around, they race swap the character and they attempt to make the film into a TV series without the one thing that people care about, the one thing that people liked about the movie... Denzel Washington.
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abetancort
/10  7 years ago
Well, another trakt.tv statistics “smorgasm”, if you check the stats for season 1 episodes you will see how trakt stats are becoming garbage and with them most of it not all of its rankings and charts. H
ow likely do you think is for any tv show to suffer extreme volatility in views between back to back episodes and experience a total inconsistent relationship between downloads and views? The probability of occurring, as it's not a random event, is so low that is equivalent to 0, or impossible in the real world.

Let see what we have in this today's Top show in the top watched TV Shows chart:

**Episode. Dowloaded. Watched**
1x06 23.4k 76.3k
1x07 10.6k 9.3k
1x08 11.1k 76.9k
1x09 11.0k 8.3k
1x10 9.3k 72.9k

Somebody could conclude that as the show loses interest (the number of downloads halves from > 20k to barely 11k) it's audience is constant (by times watched) except for odd numbered episodes, people really don't like odd numbers because the audience it's just a little over 10% of an even episode. That could be the conclusion from a nut head.

if you think about it, only the odd episodes data seems to be coherent, if for episodie 1x07 there were 10.6k downloads of the episode (had the intention of viewing it) but only 7k watchers viewed it a total of 9.3k times, a conversion rate of 66% and 32% viewed it twice, these numbers pretty good specially taking into account that hoarding content doesn't carry a direct cost and that is more common for soft players to get stuck or crash at the end of a video reporting a complete watch and when the user tries to replay the last minutes reports another complete watch.

On the other hand for even episodes the data doesn't make sense, if for episode 1x08 there were just 11.1k downloads of the episode (had the intention of viewing it) but a massive 55.4k watchers viewed it a total of 73.9k times, a conversion rate of 486% and 33% viewed it twice). There are five times more people that watched than those who got the episodes, each copy dowloded was shared/watched by 5 persons at different times (more than twice than the people in the average western household - which would mean that every one in your family viewed independently and then you invited the neighbors one by one to watch it independently). Now, more realistically if our conversion rate from 1x07 was just 66% (as the series tanks this falls as you can check with 1x09 where conversion rate had lost ten points reaching 56%), which tells me, the real watchers should have been around 7.3k and not 55.4k and viewed just 9.7k and not 73.9k.

I think someone from the trakt team should start tracking where they are doing the math wrong because although it's not like we are asking for the precision calculations required to launch rockets into orbit and bring back their main parts intact back to earth, but to have some more or less coherent and reliable statistics about the movies and Tv Shows we watch, an EECS from MIT is not required as long as you know basic algebra, basic statistics and some client/server programming and have a little common sense.

It is time you start reviewing your code base, something has been stinking too long and as ex-vip everything I don't understand how people still pay (probably don't know) if the most important one and basic flaw, the soundness of the data, hasn't been addressed.

As the CS saying goes "Garbage in, Garbage out". Please, get your act together and do something to fix it or break it completely, but do something other than contemplating.
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